Episode 9 – Robyn Openshaw

Intro:

Drew: Aloha everybody and welcome to the Fit2Fat2Fit Experience Podcast. I am your host, Drew Manning.

Lynn: And I am your co-host, Lynn Manning.

Drew: And we are super excited to be back again with another episode, another great one with the Green Smoothie Girl. Robyn Openshaw is her name. A lot of people don’t know her as Robyn Openshaw, she is known as the Green Smoothie Girl. She is the founder of GreenSmoothieGirl.com and GSG Life, which is a direct sales company that she founded and owns. A little bit about her background, she has an amazing journey. For over 20 years she has been over 200 pounds, had 21 chronic diseases at one point in time. She was able to reverse all of that through green smoothies, hence the name Green Smoothie Girl. She has inspired thousands of people all over the world. She has spoken in over 80 cities in the past year. She is a motivational speaker and a businesswoman, a single mom of four kids. She has accomplished a ton. She has lost over 70 pounds and has changed the health of her kids, who have suffered with things like asthma and some other chronic diseases, which she was able to fix through diet. I know a lot of that sounds crazy, but we are going to dive into today’s episode where we talk a lot about juicing and whole food blending, as well as the difference between the two, along with her amazing story, obviously.

Lynn: Robyn is like a prime example of somebody who shows the power of food and how what we put in our body can make a huge impact, not just on the scale. Yeah, she lost 75 pounds and that’s great. But more importantly, 21 chronic illnesses she had and the medications she was on and the medications her children were on, and how all that changed through the power of food. This is a very powerful episode and it will kind of dive in for a lot of people, because it is such a hot trend, juicing. You will learn a lot more about what juicing is, what is whole food blending, how to make it fast and affordable and is it right for you.

Drew: So, we don’t want to give away too much right now. You will have to listen to the episode to hear all the details. But it’s a great and amazing episode. It even inspired me to drink more green smoothies, which as you guys know, I already like green smoothies.

Drew: Alright, thank you so much, Robyn, for coming on the show today. We are super excited to have you. Now, do people call you Robyn or do they call you Green Smoothie Girl? *laughing*

Robyn: Well, my brothers and my family and my children call me Robyn, but if I go out, especially here locally where I have spoken to about 50,000 audiences locally, people come up and they don’t even know my name, they just call me Green Smoothie Girl.

Drew: I totally relate to that. Everyone just calls me the Fit2Fat2Fit guy, so I get that. It’s ok. I don’t get offended. I’m not like, ‘Hey, please call me Drew. You can call me the Fit2Fat2Fit guy.’

Robyn: Yeah, we answer to that or whatever, right?

Drew: Exactly, it doesn’t matter. But, Robyn, you have such an amazing story. I would love for you to tell people your story. You kind of have your own Fit2Fat2Fit story and journey. You didn’t do it on purpose like me, but I would love for you to tell a little bit about your background, how you got the green smoothie girl name and how you found your journey of health.

Robyn: I gained almost the same exact amount of weight as you did, Drew, but for a different reason. I basically was everybody in America and I didn’t know the influence that food was having on me in so many different ways. I was 26 years old. I had been raised by my mom. My grandmother had cleared herself of cancer in the 80’s by drinking tons and tons of green juice and giving up sugar and eating this raw alkaline vegan diet. I had watched that and you would think that I would be influenced by it, but you think you are invincible when your 18 and you leave home and nobody ever gave you any junk food. So I actually went crazy with it. I actually graduated college at 165 pounds and I was married then. When I gave birth to my first baby, I was well over 200 pounds. Even when I was not pregnant, I was in the 180’s and I am 5’8. I was easily 70-75 pounds up from where I should have been. Worse than that, worse than my looks, even though I speak all over, I spoke in 88 cities last year, I’ve never gotten the courage to put up my before and after photo. It is still just mortifying to me, because unlike you, I didn’t do it as an experiment. I did it accidently. I finally went through all kinds of infertility testing and treatments and I finally gave birth after 5 artificial inseminations and a bunch of miscarriages. He was a twin and we lost his twin. When he was born, he weighed almost 9 pounds and he was 23 inches long, super healthy baby. A year later, I weaned him onto formula and then onto a standard American diet. I was feeding him chicken nuggets and cinnamon raisin bread and mini bottles of cow milk. My baby was failing and had horrible asthma, allergies and eczema. He was losing weight and they put him on all kinds of bronchodilators and antibiotics and steroids. I didn’t even take him out of the clinic and I stopped taking him to church, because when I put him in the nursery, if he got sick or got a cold, he was hospitalized and in an oxygen tent. When he was a year old, he fell below the 5th percentile for weight and he was diagnosed with failure to thrive.

Lynn and Drew: Wow.

Robyn: I spent five years trying to bring him into the world and I wasn’t sleeping at night because I was afraid if I fell asleep very hard, I wouldn’t be there when he died. That was a very real possibility because he was in and out of hospitals and emergency rooms. A lot of times, he would just lay there and he would be breathing like 85 times a minute. We were up all night with him, trying to decide if we were going to go to the ER or call an ambulance or what. I was suffering too. I had 21 different diagnosed diseases. I had a big tumor. I was losing my eyesight. I had four autoimmune diseases. I was having migraines and I took meds for that. I was having horrible anxiety and panic attacks with my baby being sick. I didn’t realize, Drew, you and I were just talking about this, about how my hormones were whacked out from all the crap I was eating. My anxiety and secondary depression was off the chart and I was taking drugs for that. Probably the most serious thing is I was having mini strokes at 27. They were called transient ischemic attacks and my right arm would go numb and I couldn’t see or speak for hours. Terrifying really, here I am in my 20’s and I didn’t fantasize about anything, at 27 years old. Literally my only thought was how many hours before I can go to bed. My only fantasy was when I could go to sleep and I was supposed to be 27, right? What are people supposed to be doing when they are 27? Supposed to have a lot of sex, right? And I thought sex was a chore.

Lynn and Drew: *laughing*

Robyn: I had no sex drive, and you know that’s not fun. I was miserable and hated my life and I was on Zoloft and so many drugs. One day I went into my kitchen and blended up some spinach and some alfalfa sprouts in the blender with the usual crap. I went out on the porch. We had just run up against everything medicine could do for us and my son had been on steroids 5 times in a year and they told me it was guaranteed to stunt his growth. They told me there was nothing more they could do for him. He was 15 months old and he weighed 13 pounds.

Lynn: Oh my gosh.

Drew: Wow.

Robyn: Yeah, I mean you guys are parents. You know how devastating it was. I was totally overwhelmed. I started wondering if food could be a thing. I thought, well if we could eat healthier maybe …. I really ate a lot of crap. So I made my first ever green smoothie. Not really intentionally, it was just like ‘Oh, I will just cover it up with some pineapple juice and some other crap.’ So, I put a bunch of spinach in there and alfalfa sprouts and I took my little boy outside. It was June and I sat him in the grass to play, he was old enough to be walking a bit. I sat down on the porch and started drinking and he got up out of the grass and he walked over to me and he said, ‘What’s that?’ And I said, this total genus mom moment, I said, ‘ Ice cream.’ *laughing*

Lynn and Drew: *laughing*

Lynn: Yes! Good call, good call mom!

Robyn: And he, of course, he’s like, ‘Can I have some?’ and I’m like, ‘No, it’s mommy’s’

Drew: Smart, that’s so smart.

Lynn: Genius.

Robyn: You can only do that the first time, right? So, now he wants some. He really wants it. So, I said, ‘Well, alright, you can have a little taste. But just a little because it’s mommy’s.’ He drank it and he sucked it all the way to the bottom of this big time glass. I sat there watching this and this light bulb went off and I thought, ‘Oh my gosh, maybe I can feed him healthy foods. Maybe there are things I could make him that aren’t hard to make and are yummy to a one year old.’ It was the biggest epiphany. We basically have him drink a pint. The other three children that would come soon after, no fertility drugs needed for the rest of them, we would have drink a smoothie. But we made it healthier and healthier and our taste changed. We weren’t addicted to sugar and processed meat and white flour. And as we made one change after the other, the more it radically changed our quality of life and the more the health problems literally started disappearing and fast. Then the more excited I became, the more I studied and the more habits I put into place. I became pretty much a health nut. What happened is that my baby gained all the weight back and ditched all his symptoms. He would never be on a steroid again, he would never be on antibiotics again. In fact, I have never had a child on antibiotics again. The bronchodilator, where we would have to strap this gas mask to his face every four hours to deliver inhaled drugs, would become a thing of the past. All of my children were born with the same genetic tendencies, but we never had these hospitalizations and having to keep them out of public. We didn’t have to sanitize the grocery cart, because you might touch it and get germs. All of those things are a thing of the past. My son went on to lead the state of Utah in RBI’s. He led his team to the state playoffs his senior year. In the playoffs, he hit two grand slams and he pitched a 90 mile an hour near shutout in the playoffs.

Lynn and Drew: Wow.

Robyn: One of my favorite, literally one of the favorite nights of my life, to be honest, was watching my son in front of 2000 people in the stadium and he was named MVP after the game. My boy is 6 foot 3 inches now.

Lynn and Drew: Whoa!

Lynn: See everybody? Eat your veggies!

Drew: Eat your veggies, no drink your veggies!

Lynn: Honestly, I’ve heard miraculous stories about the power of food. I have heard, like you said, people that have documented their stories of overcoming an autoimmune disease or beating cancer and attributing that to their food decisions. But you, as far as somebody I know personally, have overcome more than anyone else I’ve known through the power of food. It’s so powerful to hear your story, and also heart wrenching. I know as a mom myself, we worry about our kids so much. I can’t even begin to fathom what you went through. I know there are probably so many parents out there listening to this podcast right now, that may be going through similar situations. Maybe not as severe, but are dealing with things, even if it’s something like asthma or eczema. We don’t even realize we can help or change that based on the foods we feed our kids. Of course we are going to go into whole food blending and talk a little bit about juicing, the benefits and whatnot. I think it’s a perfect segue, since you are already talking about it, of giving parents advice. How do you help your kids eat healthier? What is the biggest tip or tips that you give to parents?

Robyn: I have a couple of tips. I should mention to the end of my story, it’s not just that my son …. I mean I wouldn’t have made all those changes, I’m quite certain, if I hadn’t had a baby who was literally in jeopardy of dying. It should also be mentioned that I ditched 75 pounds and became a competitive athlete myself. I play competitive tennis all over in leagues and tournaments at the 4.0 level. Something I couldn’t have dreamed of when I was obese.

Drew: Wow.

Lynn: That’s amazing. Wow. Yeah.

Drew: That’s so cool.

Robyn: Yeah, all 21 diseases disappeared and all the meds. I am able to now live the life that at 27, I couldn’t have dreamed of. I am 48 now. In terms of how to do it with kids, I will tell you one thing, and no one likes hearing this, but you have got to get sugar out of your house. People will say, ‘Oh, you can’t be extreme.’ But with me, with meat and sugar, I am a sugar addict. If I have it in the house, I am going to eat it. If I have it in this house, my kids are going to eat it and then they are going to. start wailing for more. It’s a never ending thing. One of the key things for me is, I got rid of it and it didn’t come back in our house. It’s not that we never eat sugar, because let’s face it, we are not always at home, right? The kids are at school or they are at friends houses. We stopped getting sick, when we stopped eating that processed food diet and started putting some really good habits into play. The green smoothie is key. When I put greensmoothiegirl.com up, it was because we went on Wife Swap, the ABC Disney reality TV series. We were on season five and ABC told me that people would be trying to reach me and learn about this after seeing us on the show. Well I didn’t expect it, it was really just a short term objective, putting this website up and telling my story. But the site just went crazy viral. Now I get like 8 million visitors a year. I think it’s because when I put that site up in 2007, the term green smoothie was getting 50 searches a month on google and it now gets hundreds of thousands. The green smoothie is a great way to get your kids eating healthier. I freely confess now that I am finishing my parenting. I have one child left at home. The oldest two are raised. I confess he eats stuff that I don’t know about. He is at his father’s house, I am divorced now. He makes a lot of choices I don’t love. I’m not going to try and be controlling about that. We all get to make our own choices. But, he is required to eat three healthy things a day and I make them. I make them so I can make sure he is getting some bases covered that are really important to me, because I know a lot about nutrition. One of them is he has to drink a pint of green smoothie a day. I have different tips for you, Lynn, because your little girls are small. Now that I am in the teenager phase, one of the things my son wants is to have a car when he turns 16. I said then I will pay you to make the green smoothie every night for the next day for you and me and to do the dishes. So, he gets paid to make the green smoothies. He wants a car, he is getting paid and eating healthy for it! *laughing*

Drew: Hmm, that’s smart. *laughing*

Lynn: Yeah, I like that. *laughing*

Drew: Let me ask you a question, I have a ton of questions, Robyn. First of all, because you said so much and I could listen to you talk for 45 minutes straight, honestly. What does a typical green smoothie look like for you and your kids? When you say green smoothie, what does that consist of?

Robyn: Well, if I were a newbie …. well, when I have spoken …. I have spoken in 450 cities over the last six years and when I am showing a beginner green smoothie, it’s going to be more fruit than my family would have. But my objective with a green smoothie is to get as much green as possible. The fruit is to make it palatable, and the water is to thin it out and make it drinkable. I just blend the whole foods. It’s a 5 to 10 minute task in your day. In a quart of green smoothie, you can get ten servings of raw greens and fruit. The average American is only getting one or two servings of fruits and vegetables and they are not spinach, kale, collard and chard. Those are some of our staple greens, spinach, kale, collards, chard. They are mild in flavor and you can get them year round. Variety is really key, getting different greens. When I started teaching this in 2007, we didn’t have triple washed organic greens in every store in America. That’s how much better things have gotten in the last seven years.

Lynn: Yeah, it’s a lot more accessible. A lot more people know about, whether it’s juicing or whole food blending. We are going to talk and ask you about the difference so that our listeners can get a little bit of background. But, it is a lot more accessible, more affordable, easier because it’s pre-washed and ready to go and to blend. There are ways to get these vegetables in your diet, and just so everyone knows that’s listening now, we are going to put in the show notes Robyn’s website, greensmoothiegirl.com, so you guys can get there and also find some different recipes to make for yourself. So, keep that in mind.

Drew: One thing I want to touch on as well, Robyn, is this whole food blending versus juicing. Some people might not know the difference. What is the difference between juicing and whole food blending, can you give a summary of the difference between the two? And why do you chose to do the whole food blending the majority of the time versus juicing?

Robyn: Yeah, I get asked that question hundreds of times.

Drew: Yeah, same here. *laughing*

Robyn: I’ve done videos on it on my YouTube channel and I’ve answered it on my site in detail, but the short of it is, first of all, both are great. Juicing is what my grandmother did. You take five pounds of vegetables and you put it through a juicer. Especially me, I have a $2500.00 Norwalk Juicer. Don’t get confused because I am the green smoothie girl and I am not teaching juicing. I teach blending and I will tell you why. It’s not because juicing is bad. I have a $2500.00 Norwalk. It presses it so you’re not oxidizing those vegetables and so you can literally keep that juice for five or six days, because it’s cold pressed. It’s expensive and that’s out of range for most people. I do buy green juice at Roxberry here locally. I didn’t for many, many years and when I lost 70 pounds and got my son’s health back and my health back, we didn’t have much money. I was a young mom and a stay at home mom. My then husband was making $40,000 a year or something. We owned a home and had a mortgage. When you are raising young children, you are salvaging your career and you don’t have a ton of money. One thing I like about blending, the main reason I teach blending rather than juicing, juicing became very popular again a few years ago. It kind of comes and goes. Jack Lalanne made it popular in the 50’s or something. Juicing has enjoyed a resurgence of popularity because of Joe Cross and his ….

Drew: Documentary. His documentary, right?

Robyn: Yeah, I was trying to think of what it was called.

Lynn: Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead. Yeah.

Robyn: Yeah, ‘Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead’. A lot of people are inspired by that and I think that’s really great. The problem I have with juicing is, people do it in spurts. They will do it for awhile, but it’s an hour. You get the stuff out of your fridge. You are going to use a lot of vegetables and you’re going to throw away 90% of it. You are going to be shocked by how much it costs. You’re going to be throwing a ton of it away. It’s a little bit wasteful. That fiber is going in the landfill or if you are really eco conscious, maybe your compost pile. I don’t find that people stick with it, myself included and I am really committed to my health. What I find is that green smoothies are something that people will do. I think that almost anybody can do it and it takes them ten minutes a day. That’s where you are throwing the whole thing in the blender, you are blending it up. Juicing is fantastic, if you are going to juice, I am serious about this, when I am on the road on a speaking tour, and we go to a Whole Foods market. I go to the juice bar and I say, ‘Don’t put any fruit in it.’ If you are going to juice, don’t juice fruit, because you are throwing away the fiber. A glass of juice is like the sugar of eight oranges and it’s concentrated and it doesn’t have the fiber in it to slow down the impact on blood sugar. So, like Drew says, you are looking for nutrient density and you are looking at glycemic impact. Those are things whether you are Paleo or you are Vegan, those are things to keep in mind and.help keep you within a rational diet. I don’t care if people eat meat or not either. That’s not my thing, I don’t like to eat animal protein, but those are some really good rules of thumb. But, back to blending versus juicing, I like to blend because I find it is a sustainable habit that I can get about everybody to do. Juicing I would do if I had cancer. I know The Gerson Therapy has been massively successful for a ton of people. I’m not giving medical advice, I am just saying that is what I would do if I had cancer. Thirteen glasses of green juice a day, you are flooding your body with antioxidants that mop up free radicals, which cause cancer. I would do it if I were sick. I would do it if I had time and money to do it.

Drew: Yeah.

Lynn: Gotcha. But, I love that because like you said, I’m thinking of it from a practical mom point of view. I am all about time, efficiency and money. And when it comes to that time, efficiency and money, whole food blending is a better option for me, as well. If I were to have to chose between that or juicing, like you mentioned, I would chose blending.

Drew: Yeah, and people have different tastes. For example, I know I can just toss down like a full quart of a vegetable blend. For example, spinach and kale, broccoli and spirulina and water and ice. Then I will put like a drop of or a little bit of ginger in there.

Lynn: It is disgusting.

Drew: Yeah, it’s not meant to taste delicious. *laughing* But you can make it taste good by adding in fruit and I am ok with that as well. But, I know Lynn can’t do it.

Lynn: Yeah, for me, anytime I have done blending, if I am doing a bunch of vegetables and I do obviously in this group here, probably eat the worst. I am definitely a sugar addict and everyone who listens to the Podcast, knows it.

Drew: We all know it, it’s ok. Everyone still loves you. *laughing*

Lynn: It’s ok. *laughing* People are like, ‘What does Lynn eat?’ So for me, when I do the whole food blending, there are recipes. Just look up different recipes and for me, like Robyn’s talking about, will have the high nutrient dense foods. You can throw in the spinach or the kale or other ingredients. Then for me, to make it so it’s palatable, I will probably use lemon or even granny smith apples, so the green tart apple. Things like that add enough sweetness for me so that I am able to drink a lot of vegetables. Like Robyn said, I am a little bit more like the typical American. I probably eat more vegetables than a typical American, of course. I just don’t love vegetables, just like probably most people don’t love them. This is actually an easy way to get in a lot more vegetables, a lot more nutrients and then adding in a little bit of fruit can definitely make a huge difference. Whether it’s pineapple, lemon or an apple.

Drew: Yep and we are definitely fans of the Blendtec blenders, right Robyn? We are not Vitamix fans. *laughing*

Lynn: *laughing*

Robyn: *laughing* No, there is nothing wrong with Vitamix!

Drew: *laughing* I am just kidding!

Robyn: Tom Dickson who invented the Blendtec and owns the company, lives on my block. So, I am the Blendtec girl.

Drew: Yeah.

Lynn: Actually we are Blendtec people too. We love the Blendtec, you can literally toss the entire apple into the blender and it will blend it for you.

Drew: Yeah. *laughing* Well, I kind of want to change directions here a little bit, Robyn. First of all, you are an inspiration, you even inspire me. Right now I am thinking about what am I going to put into my next green smoothie after we are done with this. I know you are already inspiring me. I want to go through your daily routines and talk about what a typical day looks like for you. Do you mind doing that?

Robyn: No, not at all. I must say, I am a fan of routine.

Drew: Cool.

Robyn: I am not super rigid, but I break a sweat six times a week and I am absolutely religious about it. I haven’t really missed a day of exercise hardly ever in 25 years. So, for me, I love the endorphins of it and it starts my day off right. I always work out in the morning. I run 5 miles or like I said, I play competitive tennis. I often play sports for 3 hours a day. I’m a cyclist. I am not a distance runner, but I do five miles a few times a week. I love Yoga and do yoga three times a week. I always get up in the morning and I make this pink smoothie that I love and I have thousands of people who make this smoothie. I don’t know what my deal is with it, not because it’s the only breakfast you could eat. It’s just for whatever reason, it’s what I want every day. I have literally had it pretty much every day for 15 years. It has beets and carrots and cashews and dates blended in coconut water.

Drew: Wow.

Lynn: Yeah, yum.

Robyn: Coconut water is …. now they put it in sports drinks because it’s such a great electrolyte replacer and great for athletes. Then after that it is really smooth and then I put in like 12 big frozen strawberries.

Drew: Wow, we will have to put that in the show notes. I’m going to try that recipe out and let you guys know how it tastes. It sounds really good, to be honest with you, with the dates and the strawberries and cashews. I love cashews. So, that’s your breakfast when you wake up?

Robyn: That’s my breakfast. I make it for me and for baby boy, who is not really very baby, he is 6 foot 1, but that is what he is called.

Drew: *laughing* Yeah.

Robyn: He drinks it before he goes to school and then we have our green smoothie for lunch. With it I might have some whole grain, homemade, low salt, no processed ingredients chips with some hummus or guacamole, I love guacamole. I’ve gone months at a time where I eat an entire avocado every single day. I don’t gain any weight, I love good fats. For dinner, I eat a lot of legumes. I might eat soup. Sometimes, I am really lazy at this point, I work a lot. I travel a lot so I will eat an almond bar and another quart of green smoothie. A lot of times these days, because I am not cooking for a family like I used to, I make sure I get lots and lots of produce, especially greens. We go through 2 quarts of green smoothies a day.

Lynn: Wow.

Robyn: A lot of times I will eat out with friends and I find places where I can get a good salad. Like here in Utah, I probably eat at Zupas two or three times a week and I just get chard and kale quinoa salad.

Lynn: I love that salad.

Drew: That’s a good one. That one is actually really good.

Lynn: We are not in Utah anymore, but when we lived there I used to get that one too.

Drew: So, Robyn, let me ask you this, what do you eat that is a cheat meal? Do you ever have a treat meal, or whatever you want to call it and if so, what does that look like? And be honest with this, if it’s Twinkies or whatever it is?

Lynn: I doubt she eats Twinkies! *laughing*

Drew: She might, I don’t know! *laughing*

Lynn: She’s probably going to go with like wine and chocolate.

Robyn: Yeah. Don’t you worry, I have no problem confessing my dietary sins. I have no interest in being …. well, I guess I am a role model, because I do want to share with people that I lost 75 pounds and ditched 21 diseases. I want people to know that it’s possible for them. I don’t eat a perfect diet. I eat a really, really good diet. It’s better than 99% of people, but that’s because you all eat a crappy diet. I definitely have my addictions. I wish I didn’t, but I also think I relate to people well. The things I crave and love are Chai Tea, that is like my treat that I have almost every day. If I don’t have a Chai Tea, I have iced coffee. The thing for me is I have given up on eating perfectly. But Chai tea, organic coffee with like coconut milk in it and some stevia, or coconut sugar, those are my cheats. Yeah, a glass of wine is another thing I really like with dinner and chocolate. You pretty much nailed it.

Lynn: I nailed it! I knew it, this is my girl.

Drew: *laughing*

Robyn: We had discussed it before. She knows all my ugly little secrets.

Lynn: *laughing*

Drew: Lynn knows you too well. So you won’t ever have like pizza or donuts or Twinkies or something really ….

Robyn: No, I generally never really do …. I can’t say I won’t ever eat pizza. I probably eat pizza, like real regular pizza like other people think of, maybe twice a year. But I do occasionally, at the health food store, get a gluten free, dairy free veggie pizza and my son rolls his eyes. That’s ok too.

Lynn: *laughing*

Robyn: The really good stuff doesn’t get to me anymore and I know I used to be a diet cokeaholic and it doesn’t appeal to me anymore. I used to eat a bag of York Peppermint Patties in about two days. I ate chocolate donuts with chocolate frosting on them, I would buy a six pack of them and eat 3 of them while my kids were taking a nap. Then I would stick the box under my bed and then the next day eat the other three.

Lynn: *laughing*

Drew: Oh my god! *laughing* That’s funny.

Robyn: Stuff like that doesn’t appeal to me anymore. Like a regular candy, I would rather have something really quality from a health food store that I make myself. I still eat treats, but I have leveled the treats and eat less of them. I probably eat a treat six days a week. *laughing*

Lynn: I love that. Yeah, I’m laughing because I have eaten everything that you were just saying. When you were like, ‘Oh, those donuts with the chocolate frosting.’ I am like, ‘Oh man, those are so good.’ But actually even though I am a big foodie and I would consider myself a lot more into sugar than say the present group of company. I will admit that when I get on a roll of eating healthier, eating more fruits and vegetables, just more nutrient dense food and instead of packaged foods, I do notice that my taste buds do change a bit. Not to say that sugar doesn’t always taste good to me, it does. But sometimes things that I once liked a lot, like certain candy bars, I don’t like them as much as I used to like them. I probably would steer more towards something like you said, a little bit of chocolate and a little bit of wine. It is true, sometimes people feel like …. I don’t even like the taste of healthy foods. I would say, and you probably would agree because you have been there, take it baby steps, one step at a time. A lot of times, the big thing is integrating a few things, you get to the point to where your taste buds start to change. Would you agree with that?

Robyn: Absolutely. I think that as we build ourselves a higher vibration materials, they resonate with high vibration materials. When you have quality stuff, I mean we are what we normally eat. We start to salivate when thinking of sauteed asparagus or whatever healthy thing we really like. Mostly I crave foods that are really good for me. I do have those few addictions, but I eat all those things in the day. There is such an emotional component to it. But I feel that beating myself up about food is just a bad idea in general. So, I’m kind of at peace with my body. I am kind of at peace with my cravings at this period in my life, because I have spent a lot of my life trying to control myself and hold myself by the throat and order myself to not eat this and to do that. Now it’s like, if I have an indulgent meal, I say, ‘You know what, namaste.’ Because, I have ate healthy all day.

Drew: Yeah. *laughing*

Lynn: I love that.

Drew: Yeah and I can relate to that. There are certain things, like I haven’t had Cinnamon Toast Crunch or Mountain Dew since my Fit2Fat2Fit journey. Not because I don’t want to, it’s because I know that those are my trigger foods. I will indulge in other things, like I have kind of upgraded my cheat meals, if you will. Not to the extent that you have, but I feel at peace with my treat meals and my indulgences. But there are certain things that I probably won’t go back to, like Cinnamon Toast Crunch and Mountain Dew.

Lynn: Yeah, actually what I love is just what Robyn said about not beating ourselves up about our food choices. Yes, we want to try to eat better. Yes, I think it’s great to have more nutrient dense foods. Of course we all know it’s great to eat more vegetables, but we are going to have things that we are craving and we are going to have indulgences here and there. Beating ourselves up or feeling guilty every time we eat certain foods isn’t going to help us or inspire us to eat healthier. So, I love what you said about sometimes you indulge and it’s not about guilt, it’s just about living a healthy lifestyle. Which kind of brings me to the question that I ask every single female that comes on our Podcast and I love hearing the different responses. And from you, for me it’s that I feel like you are a prime example of having a healthy balance. You are a single mom and you balance this huge and successful career with family and your health. What do you say is the key to kind of balancing all of those, since so many women, I know even myself included, we always tend to find that ‘how do we do it all’, ‘how do we fit our health as a priority when we have everything else on our plate’? What would you say to those people?

Robyn: Well, first of all, balance is overrated. It’s a nice idea but kind of …. yet another thing I am not going to tax myself with. I have seasons where I work too hard and I have seasons where I spend a lot of time with my kids. I have seasons where I do stay out too late with my girlfriends three nights in a roll on the weekends. My main thing is to come to a place of peace and when I am peaceful, I am less likely to indulge anyway. When it comes to parenting and food, I kind of go with this wisdom that my mother told me many years ago, that is that you do the best you can. You push yourself to raise your standards of parenting. What new habit can I incorporate this month that will bless my families lives. Also, giving yourself a pass to not be perfect. I am so over the perfectionism. I live in a community where there is a lot of pressure on that and I tried for so many years and all it did was make me miserable. At this point, I have got so little judgement left in me towards other parents. People are always coming up to me and saying, ‘Don’t look at what I am eating’, when I am having lunch with a group. And I say, ‘You know what, I never look at what you are eating. I don’t judge what your eating. I’ve got no judgement left.’ I have lived long enough to know that we are all just eking it out. We are doing the best we can and life should be joyful. So eat very, very healthy and indulge now and then. I am always trying to get Lynn to come out with me and my girlfriends. *laughing*

Lynn and Drew: *laughing*

Robyn: If you ever show up, you might see me eat some sweet potato fries with my salad, girl!

Lynn: What?! Ok, that’s it. I am showing up. It doesn’t help that I am in Hawaii now, so it makes it really hard to attend these Salt Lake City gatherings. But I promise, since I will be coming back to Utah, I will be coming out with you and your girlfriends and I will order you the sweet potato fries and you can watch me eat the chocolate cake.

Robyn: *laughing* Ok.

Lynn: I love your advice. I love all the bits of knowledge that we had. I could probably could go on for another 30 minutes, but since we have to wrap up, I want to wrap up with my favorite portion of the show. Everybody knows, if you have been listening to our Podcast, that we do a lightning round. So for Robyn, what this means for you is we are going to ask you a few questions. They are pretty much pointless. They are pretty much just for our entertainment and you have no idea what they are. So you basically are going to, on the cuff, answer as quickly as possible with as short of an answer as possible.

Robyn: Done.

Lynn: Are you ready?

Robyn: Yes.

Lynn: Ok. Most embarrassing moment.

Robyn: Most embarrassing moment. Come back to it.

Lynn: Ok.

Robyn: Oh!

Drew: Here we go.

Robyn: Got it. When my neighbor across the street came over and she didn’t know me very well and I had my first baby. My other sister answered the door and she thought she was the nursing mom. So, my sister and I played along with it for a year.

Lynn: Oh my gosh, are you serious?! *laughing*

Drew: *laughing*

Robyn: It played out through the whole neighborhood and it was really awful and embarrassing.

Lynn: *laughing* I love that. So, you guys lied for a whole year about who you were. Ok, that’s wonderful.

Drew: That is funny.

Lynn: Ok, because I know you are single, I love this one. What is your worst dating experience or funniest thing that has happened on a date?

Drew: Tinder moment. You know what Tinder is? *laughing*

Lynn: *laughing*

Robyn: Well, unfortunately I do and the breakup with the four month long boyfriend, last weekend who turns out was a heroin addict, does that count? It isn’t that funny though.

Drew: What?? *laughing*

Lynn: That totally counts. I did actually, since I am friends with Robyn, I did know about that. Let’s just say, worst experience. You don’t know if you’re dating a crazy. And that was a crazy dude. I felt so bad for you. I saw a funny meme and I almost sent it to you, but I wasn’t sure if you were past like the hard part of the breakup. So I will just tell you, it’s a funny meme that says, ‘Whatever, I am just going to date myself.’

Robyn: *laughing*

Lynn: Ok, next question. Drew is going to do it.

Drew: Ok, this one is kind of funny. Since you are the green smoothie girl, if your ideal man were a green smoothie, what ingredients would he be and why?

Lynn: *laughing*

Robyn: *laughing* Oh my gosh. I love frozen mixed berries.

Drew: Ok, sounds ….

Lynn: Frozen mixed berries. *laughing* Frozen mixed berries, because they are sweet and you never know what you are going to get. And they add variety.

Robyn: Thank you for trying to make that have anything to do with the subject, Lynn.

Drew: Yeah, she helped you out.

Lynn: She wants a dash of cinnamon to spice it up a little bit.

Robyn: There you go.

Lynn: She wants a little bit of kale, so that he is bulky, but not too overpowering. I’m sorry, just kidding. Obviously, we thought more about these questions than you did. You have no idea what these questions even are.

Robyn: *laughing*

Lynn: Ok, and then last question.

Drew: Ok, so I kind of already know the answer to this, but I have to ask because I ask all guests that come on the show. I know you have already been overweight, but would you ever, let’s say for a TV show, would you ever do a Fit2Fat2Fit Experience on purpose.

Robyn: Hell no!

Lynn and Drew: *laughing*

Drew: Damn it! Everybody keeps saying that. I don’t blame you. Do you feel like you learned something or do you feel like you can relate to people who are overweight because of your past? Because of you being overweight yourself, do you feel that empathy, now that you have been in shape for so long?

Robyn: Absolutely. That’s why I would never go do that on purpose. It is very difficult. Difficult on every level.

Drew: Yeah, touche’.

Robyn: Lots of compassion for folks who are overweight, I do not judge them. I just say, there but for the grace of God go I, because I have been there.

Lynn: Man, I think Robyn is a perfect experience like that, 21 diseases, 75 pounds. That’s an amazing experience to go through to where you could probably relate to a lot of people you run into that are having different health and wellness problems. I just love your story.

Drew: Well, I think it’s a testament that you can overcome things that you think are just …. you can’t overcome them. Like my doctor said this is all I can do, so this is all I have and I have to live with this. But really, it is a testament to how powerful nutrition is. That is what I tried to show people with my Fit2Fat2Fit journey and what you have shown through your experience. There are thousands and hundreds of thousands of other people who have changed their health with their diet. It is true and it’s powerful and people need to experience that for themselves. So, what’s next, Robyn? You have an amazing business model, by the way. Tell us a little bit about what’s coming up and what’s next for you.

Robyn: We are launching a third company. We own a direct sales company and of course greensmoothiegirl.com, since 2007, but we are launching “Be The Change Tour” in 2016. We start offering tickets in 44 cities in November and you will know about that through Lynn and Drew, because Drew is one of our guest speakers.

Drew: *laughing* I was going to say, I think I have head of this tour, by the way. Sounds familiar!

Lynn: *laughing* Oh, man.

Drew: Yeah, I am excited to do the “Be The Change Tour”. I think it’s going to be amazing, 44 cities across the United States, right?

Robyn: Yes, and we will have six amazing change makers on each stage. People who have overcome massive adversity and have achieved incredible success talking about …. they are people from the personal growth field and from the wellness community. Drew, you are really from both camps. You have really put one foot in both camps, which is going to be brilliant for your career and for the stage.

Drew: Where can people find out about that?

Robyn: You’re going to have your own URL, Drew. I believe it will be BeTheChangeTour.com/fit2fat2fit.

Drew: Ok.

Lynn: Awesome. We will make sure to put this in the show notes so that you guys can find Robyn’s website and so that you can find out about the ‘Be The Change Tour’ and to just be able to connect with Robyn, with all of her good info that she has to offer.

Drew: Yeah, and where can people find you on social media, Robyn? Just green smoothie girl?

Robyn: Yeah, you get maxed on your personal page on Facebook, so Robyn Openshaw has been maxed for years. But there is a Green Smoothie Girl Fan Page, you can go there. We are on Instagram as GSGLife, that’s our other company. The ‘Be The Change Tour’ will be up and out on November 1st. But if you are going through Drew’s page, check him out on ‘Be The Change Tour’. It will be up on November 1st at BeTheChangeTour/Fit2Fat2Fit.

Drew: Well, thanks again, Robyn. We appreciate you coming on the Fit2Fat2Fit Podcast and we would love to have you back on in the future. Thank you so much again. We appreciate you.

Robyn: Loved every minute of it. See you guys soon, when you get back to Utah.

Lynn: Or come to Hawaii to see me.

Robyn: I’m on it.

Lynn: We can go out for a treat meal together.

Robyn: Ok, it sounds good. *laughing*

Drew: Alright, talk to you later, Robyn.

Outro:

Drew: Thank you guys so much for listening to today’s episode with Robyn Openshaw from GreenSmoothieGirl.com. We hope you will take the initiative to drink more green smoothies and eat more vegetables and get more nutrients into your body. We hope you learned something from today’s episode. If you would like to, please leave us a review on ITunes. We love seeing those five star reviews. Leave a comment or question, we love to hear from you guys. We really do truly appreciate you guys supporting us on this Podcast.

Lynn: Yeah, and if you want to learn more about what we are up to and what we are doing, you can follow us on our websites and subscribe to our letter. My website is 2fitathome.com. There you can subscribe to my newsletter.

Drew: Yep. My website, as you guys know, is Fit2Fat2Fit.com. All my social media handles are @Fit2Fat2Fit. So send me a tweet or a shoutout on Instagram, comment on Facebook. I love hearing from you.

Lynn: Check in with us next Tuesday for our next episode.

Drew: See you guys next time.