Episode 141 – Adee Cazyoux
What’s up everyone? It’s me, Drew Manning from Fit2Fat2Fit and you’re listening to the Fit2Fat2Fit Experience Podcast. What’s up everyone? How are you guys doing today? It is beautiful weather here in Salt Lake City Utah. It feels like spring is just around the corner. Lots of cool things going on this summer, and later on this year that I definitely want to talk to you guys about. Especially my Fit2Fat2Fit cruise, which is coming up in October. I would love to see some of you on this cruise with me. You can join me on the cruise if you just go to Fit2Fat2FitCruise.com, you can see all the details. It’s a 7 day cruise. We are leaving out of Florida, I believe Miami. We are headed to places like Belize and Honduras and a few other beautiful locations. Basically the way the cruise is set up is we are having daily seminars. We are doing a daily workout together as a unit. We have Yoga and meditation instructors coming along, as well. We are going to be eating meals together, as well. So if you want to make it healthy, if you want to make it Keto and you want to stay healthy on this cruise, then by all means, I will teach you how to do that. If you want to have a happy balance of like, yeah some meals healthy and work out with Drew, and then at night time have a few drinks and dessert, I can teach you how to do that too. Or if you just want to just totally let yourself go, like most people do on the cruise, that’s fine as well. But you are going to learn some awesome information with nutritional seminars, fitness seminars, talking about helping you personally with your specific goals. You will have a lot of one on one time with me. I would love to see you on the cruise. It’s at Fit2Fat2Fit.com. Now, today’s episode is with Adee Cazyoux. She is married to Michael Cazyoux, who we have had on the Podcast previously. We will put a link in the show notes to his episode. This is a very powerful, dynamic duo. They are both very well known in the fitness industry and in the CrossFit world. Adee owns a company called “Working Against Gravity”. We talk about her coaching platform, where she coaches people on customized nutritional advice. She works with some high level athletes, like the top names in CrossFit and some Olympians, as well. Over 25,000 people that she helps to get better nutritional coaching. We are going to get into that, how she turned her passion into a business, as well. And some tips from her on nutrition, how she overcame her own weight gain as a teenager and how she was able to lose that weight and keep it off and make it a lifestyle change as well.
Drew: Alright, Adee, welcome to the show. How are you doing today?
Adee: I am really good. How are you?
Drew: I am doing fantastic, thanks for joining me on the Podcast. Super excited to have you on. I have had your husband on, obviously. I am really excited to get you on too, because you are a wealth of knowledge. Like I was telling you before, you speak my language. I am really excited to share your message and your story with my audience. So first of all, let’s just start off introducing you to my audience, a little bit about yourself. What were your passions growing up as a kid that led you down this path of where you are today?
Adee: Oh, ok! My name is Adee Cazyoux. It’s my married last name, obviously. Michael Cazyoux, who was on the Podcast before, so, if you didn’t listen to his episode, go back and listen to his. I grew up in Toronto Canada and I currently live in Austin Texas. My husband is from Louisiana, so we were traveling around a little bit. Literally googled best city for young entrepreneurs and Austin’s on a lot of those lists, so we ended up here. My passions and interests growing up, I played pretty much every single sport you could possibly name, from volleyball to basketball. I did a lot of figure skating competitively, slalom skiing in the water. Snow skiing, snowboarding, I did something called Air Chair. I even did like a small stint in bobsled, with the Ontario Bobsled Team. I did a lot of sports. When I got into my teenage years, I got a lot heavier and it made it a lot more difficult to participate in some of these sports. When you’re figure skating if you’re too heavy, you can’t do a lot of the tricks. It’s really hard to pull yourself out of the water on a slalom ski, if you’re too heavy and don’t have enough strength. I ended up being pretty close to 200 pounds when I was 16. I lost 50 pounds working with a nutritionist and learning about my food and that kind of started my passion for nutrition, which is obviously what I do now. That was 12 years ago. “Working Against Gravity”, the company I own, started from when I was an athlete in Olympic Weightlifting, being in a weight class specific sport. So having to manage your nutrition and your performance at the same time was something that not a lot of people were really focusing on in the weight lifting and functional fitness space. People started asking me for help and we kind of got to where we are now.
Drew: Awesome. That is so cool. So, let’s back up a little bit. What is Air Chair? Is that a Canadian thing? *laughing*
Adee: No, it’s kind of like a surfboard with a seat on it, like a chair. You sit on the chair and you seatbelt yourself in. The surfboard is attached to the chair and underneath the surfboard is a 5 foot fin. When you lower your hands on the rope, the fin comes out of the water so you can hover aboard the water. You have to YouTube it, it’s hard to explain. When you YouTube it, you’ll see some really crazy stuff.
Drew: I might have seen something like that, where it sticks up out of the water. Yeah, that’s interesting. That’s crazy. Kind of going back to your story a little bit, growing up you were so active it seems like. What caused the weight gain, in your opinion?
Adee: I think I still have to do lots of introspective searching to really know what actually caused it. It’s probably most definitely a mixture of a bunch of different factors. I have been doing a lot of personal development work over the past three years, really pushing reading, learning, therapy, coaching and seminars. I think most of it was probably from a little bit of social anxiety. I was the youngest of three kids. My brother and sister were …. we were all close, but not that close. We also switched schools a bunch when I was a kid. I went to the same school until Grade 3 and then from Grade 3 to Grade 8, I went to another school and then I switched in High School. I also went to summer camps, like sleepover camps, but I switched summer camps a lot too. So, I went to four different sleepover camps too. Most people, they stuck to the same summer camp. They had the same group of friends the whole entire time and they were super close. I always felt on the outside of that. I tried to be who they wanted me to be, so that they would treat me like everybody. I really wanted people to like me. I wanted to have friends. I wanted to be popular. I wanted boys to like me. I probably created a bunch of stories that weren’t real about the way people were treating me. Somebody maybe would say something or have some type of reaction and I would build up a story like, ‘That means they don’t like me. They are judging me.’ I invented something that probably wasn’t true. I often found myself alone at home, instead of hanging out with friends. I didn’t have the courage to ask people to hang out. I was just scared. I still sometimes find myself scared making new friends. I overthink it like, ‘Oh, I am going to say the wrong thing or they are not going to like me. What if I talk too much or what if we don’t talk?’ I can’t handle the awkward silence. I think that’s the biggest thing. It was just comforting to me. I would just sit in my basement and eat.
Drew: Yeah. This is what I love about you, you’re speaking my language and I can totally relate to exactly what you went through. Feeling like you’re on the outside all the time. Never feeling like you are a part of the group and then what you do instead to compensate, is be who other people want you to be. So, you never truly find who you are and you’re trying to fit in with these different demographics, or cliques within different schools. It’s hard and you kind of lose yourself. As a teenager, this is the power of creating your own story and how real that is. As a teenager without that guidance, you’re just making up stories, creating stories. Those become your truth, even though it might not be real and it probably isn’t true. That story becomes your truth. It’s really powerful doing this personal development now, with life coaching, therapy and books. Looking back on your life, you can kind of connect the dots a lot more clearly, right? Because you can kind of see who you were at that time. Looking back from a different perspective and realizing, ‘Man, if I could just learn how to change my story from a younger age, and see it from a different perspective, we probably wouldn’t have suffered so much.’
Adee: Right, totally.
Drew: You know? Ok, so going back a little bit to your story, and this is what I love about it. Here’s the thing, being overweight and having that experience as a teenager, I think gives you a different perspective on how you view clients and people who struggle with weight. Because that is kind of what my brand is built on, is empathy and seeing it from someone else’s perspective. So, if you have never been overweight, it’s really hard to truly understand what someone who is overweight is going through. It seems so easy for you. For me growing up, I didn’t struggle with my weight because I played football and wrestling from a very young age. When I tried to help clients who were overweight, I was like, ‘What’s wrong with you? It’s not that hard. You just put down the junk food and you go to the gym. Then boom, you see results and you just do it.’ And I couldn’t understand why there was such a strong emotional connection to food. Do you feel like you, as a teenager, having that experience of being overweight, has helped you see it from a different perspective, now that you have helped so many clients?
Adee: Yes, I do think it allowed me to see it from a different perspective. Also on that same vein, I realized after starting life and going through a couple of years of meeting so many different people, even though I can relate to people that have been in that place, at the same time there are so many different types of relationships with food and things that people are going through. I also realized that it does even give me a little bit of a biased perspective. I try to just be open to the fact that everybody is going through something, like it’s their own journey. It’s unique, it’s totally different than what I was going through. It changes. I realized maybe I lost the weight and I feel like I have the skills to be in control of my nutrition. But that is not just you get there and you stay there forever. It’s an up and down roller coaster. I still struggle, even now. I feel like I learn new things and I gain new perspectives every single day.
Drew: I love that. Everyone’s journey is so individual, that’s what makes us all different and unique. I love how honest you are talking about that and it’s definitely very powerful. You said you worked with a nutritionist, how did that help you overcome your connections to food? And if it worked for a little bit, what did you do past that to turn it into a lifestyle change?
Adee: At that point when I first started, I hadn’t been exercising at all. I quit every single sport that I was a part of. I was just too heavy and embarrassed, almost shameful about where I was at physically. What changed for me is the accountability that comes with getting help. If anybody that listens to this reads Brene’ Brown, she talks about something about shame and how shame can only survive with secrets, silence and judgment. The second that you don’t have silence, secrecy or you’re judging yourself, so I went out and I spoke about my problem and I asked for help, then it can’t survive anymore. It can’t live in that, like shame can’t live in that kind of environment. That moment of …. I have this other person that wants to help me and cares about me. I am going to have to come back a week from now and I am going to have to keep talking about it, even pushing through that discomfort. There were weeks I didn’t want to go and there were weeks I didn’t have a great week and I didn’t want to let her know. But pushing through that discomfort and doing it anyways, helped me get that type of education around my nutrition and realize that I was capable. Just having help, the accountability was a huge game changer for me and having my mom involved at 16 was super important. To this day, her opinion matters so much to me. Having her support in making that kind of change was the game changer. How I switched it to a lifestyle shift, for me, nutrition is a keystone habit in my life all the time. If I get off track with my nutrition, it’s like a domino effect. Everything else in my life will start to suffer. Then when I do get back on track with my nutrition and I feel in control and I am eating better and more disciplined, everything else in my life gets better. It really was like that at the time. So, I had lost a bunch of weight. I walked on the treadmill thirty minutes a day. My dad had a treadmill in their bedroom, thirty minutes a week, sorry. I lost all the weight and then I gained the confidence in that I had integrity with myself. I actually followed through with what I say I am going to do. I was only supposed to …. I followed my nutrition program. I didn’t cheat. I actually had integrity with myself and that gave me the confidence to know that I probably could have integrity with other things too. So, I went to the gym and started going to the gym. It kind of just spiraled out of control from there. What I really appreciate about what that nutritionist did is that, she taught me not just eat this and that. She actually taught me how to make those choices for myself. She gave me lists of protein, carbs and fat. She classified fruits differently than carbs. She gave me the options of what it was that I was going to be eating and then taught me why this is a protein and why this is a carb. How much of each is appropriate in each meal and we talked about how it made me feel. It really gave me the confidence that no matter what happens, I can lean back on those skills to get myself back on track.
Drew: I love that. That is so cool. Thank you so much for talking about that. I kind of have a selfish question because I am a dad of two daughters. They are eight and six right now. I know they are going to be in the teenage years soon. You said your mom was a huge support for you and she kept you accountable. How did your parents talk to you? Did they make it about weight or did they try and help you from a different perspective so there wasn’t pressure on you, like ‘Hey you need to look this way.’? Do you know what I am saying? How did they do that for you as a teenager? I guess what I am trying to get at is, it’s hard for parents to have that conversation. They want their kids to be healthy and fit, but at the same time I think if you put pressure on your child to weigh less or look a certain way, maybe that can be unhealthy. How did your parents communicate with you about that?
Adee: That is a really hard question. *laughing*
Drew: I know. *laughing*
Adee: I think it was good and bad. Part of why I got there was because in my house there was only healthy food. They really did try. All of us, my brother, my sister and myself, at some point struggled with weight. I struggled the most, but we all struggled with weight at some point. Our house was pretty exclusively only what my parents deemed as healthy. We didn’t have junk food in the house. I think partly that the novelty of junk food led to …. I would go to the convenience store and I would buy junk food with any money that I could find. I would go to my friends houses and all I would care about at my friends houses was eating as much junk food as I could, because I wasn’t going to get it at home. I think part of that was maybe …. I mean, parents are just doing the best they can, you know?
Adee: Every kid is completely different, so it’s really hard. Of course you look at that and think, ‘Oh, it’s crazy, you only ate healthy food and you make that important.’ I think for me, not having the option of at least exploring junk food, made it exciting for me and more enticing. I don’t really remember exactly how she spoke to me. I do remember like particular situations where I could tell she was very disappointed. I only wore sweatpants for a pretty long time, for years and years and years. So, probably from the age of like 13 to 16, I only wore sweatpants because I was ashamed of the shape of my body. My mom used to beg me to wear jeans just so I could feel myself growing. Because, if you grow you have to get a new size, like your jeans don’t fit anymore. I remember her being so upset when I wouldn’t wear a pair of jeans. Not upset like angry or mad, like I could tell she was kind of upset with herself. She was just so sad and I hated that. For me, I am an obliger. I abide to the expectations of others. For me, not meeting her expectations was devastating to me. I think maybe that’s what it was like for me. My husband’s not really great at external expectations, so he was a drug addict. When his parents were disappointed he was doing drugs, he didn’t care. It’s probably different for every person and I don’t have kids. So, I don’t know if I am that great for this question! *laughing*
Adee: When I do get pregnant, I will listen to a ton of Podcast’s and do a lot of research and I will get better at it.
Drew: Yeah, we can go down this road and make a whole Podcast just about this. Because I think it is hard, even for me who is in the health and fitness industry, trying to teach my kids. But, also realizing if I am too controlling, like you said when you go to a friends house and there is gushers and there is poptarts, it’s going to be like a kid in a candy store. I’ve realized I have to let go of the control. Over the years, I’ve kind of just realized I can’t control everything they put in their mouth. If I make it a religion where it’s like, ‘Hey, this is sinful. Don’t eat this food. This food is bad, this food is good.’ I feel like that is going to create a lot of problems for them growing up. I try to find that happy balance of like, ‘Look, it’s ok. We can have these treats and it’s not a big deal.’ We don’t need to make a big deal about it, but here is the why behind it. Here is why we need to eat healthy and to eat healthy food and not eat too much junk food. But, I try not to make it about weight. I think I am doing a great job, but at the same time, I have no idea! *laughing* So, I am just curious to know from your perspective. I really appreciate you going down that path with me and trying to remember just what your mom said. But, I think it’s really valuable for people, maybe a lot of parents listening. How to talk to your kids about health and not make it so much about their appearance and their weight. Because I have seen, in some families, it do some damage. You hear, ‘You have to eat healthy food. You have to exercise more.’ Ok, sorry! I went off on a tangent there! *laughing*
Adee: It’s ok. I think it’s very, very important that these conversations are being had. I’m sure a lot of people struggle with what do I say to my kids, you know?
Drew: Yeah. 100%. So, when did this end up becoming a passion for you? When did you know that this was a path you wanted to go down and start turning it into a business?
Adee: Oh gosh. It’s funny, because I actually wanted to be a kindergarten teacher. *laughing*
Adee: Honestly, I still might become a kindergarten teacher one day. Who knows? Ever since I lost all that weight and learned about nutrition, I’ve always been super passionate about it. I had debated doing it for school, like education, but I decided to do psychology and teaching instead. I started Crossfit and I started Olympic Weightlifting. I tried every single type of diet under the sun, Paleo, Keto, carb back loading, whatever it was, I tried them all. I had just graduated from my masters in teaching and I really had every intention of becoming a teacher. That’s what I wanted to do. I never wanted to own my own business. I literally grew up and said, ‘I don’t want to be my own boss.’ I think being a boss is fun, you know the freedom? It’s really high risk, but really high reward. But at the same time it’s really nice when you are an employee to. At the end of the day, something goes wrong, it’s not my problem! *laughing* I guess it’s really nice to know that you can actually unplug and actually detach completely. For me it’s like hard, the responsibility that comes with being a business owner. It was totally kind of by accident. People started emailing me. I had a blog and people just started emailing me and asking for help. I really was excited to help people. I thought it was going to be like four or five people that I would help. Once it got past five people, I realized just because it was taking up my time, I should probably charge people for it. I didn’t really know where that would take me, it was really just one foot in front of the other. Now we are here, somehow! *laughing*
Drew: *laughing* I love that. I think those are the best stories, when you go into it with just wanting to help people. Then all of a sudden it’s like, ‘Oh, this is taking all of my time. How do I monetize this the right way?’ I’ve kind of been there with my journey as well. Let’s talk about “Working Against Gravity”, what that means. What your mission is with the company and specifically what you do for clients.
Adee: “Working Against Gravity”, what it means is it’s an online nutrition coaching platform that really can help anybody achieve some level of transformation in your life. We have people from all walks of life that join this company. My mom has been on the program for three years. We also have CrossFit games champions. We currently work with three different CrossFit games champions. We also work with Olympians, moms, dads, shift workers, nurses, whoever, anybody who is looking to optimize their nutrition for any type of goal. Our focus is to create transformation. That could be helping you build a better relationship with food, increase your performance in the gym. It could be lose some weight, gain some weight, just really feel in control of your nutrition, like you understand it. Some people join the program and want to learn to be a better nutrition coach and they want to see how we do it, so that’s why they join the program. There is a bunch of different ways we do that. We get to know you and we pair you with a coach that has either been similar to you or has helped people achieve goals that you are looking to achieve. You guys work together. It’s a real human that really cares about you and will work with you week to week to see how things are going, what’s going well, what’s not going well. They will provide resources, strategy, support and make adjustments to your nutrition for you. That’s how it works.
Drew: Do you provide custom nutritional protocols for people? Or do you suggest it or base it off of, for example, IIFYM? Or if someone comes to you and says, ‘Hey, I want to be keto, but I also want to do CrossFit.’ You can customize a meal plan for them? Or do you try to fit them into a specific protocol that is your specialty?
Adee: We do more of the trying to fit what’s working for them. We don’t have any …. we try not to park in any particular camp, I guess you would call it. We are not …. we are not keto. We are not high carb. We are not IIFYM. We do give you boundaries based on how many carbs, fats and proteins you eat. But that doesn’t mean we are promoting eating as much junk food as you possibly can. That is something your coach will talk to you about and it is not something we promote at all. But if you come to us from a keto background and you say, ‘Hey, I used to do keto. I want to do CrossFit. I want to start incorporating some carbohydrates around training.’ Then we are not going to give you 20% of your calories coming from fat. That would be way to dramatic of a change. We are going to do what you can actually stick to. We are not out here to take you from zero to one hundred and set you up for failure.
Drew: Gotcha. What data do you need to actually get started customizing someone’s meal plan for them? Do you base it off of their resting metabolic rate? Do you have them go get their body fat tested to find that information out? What kind of data do you need before you actually get started with the plan? I’m just trying to paint a picture for people listening that might be interested in this.
Adee: Just a quick clarification, the word meal plan sometimes gets confused with ‘we are going to tell you actually what you can eat’ and that is not what we do. We will give you a certain amount of carbs, fats and proteins to eat a day. We do guide you in making those choices. We do have the ability to look at your MyFitnessPal logs, if you use MyFitnessPal. We will look into your fitness logs and help you make those choices. It’s more of an education on how to make those choices for yourself, just like I got when I was 16 years old. I made my own food choices, so that you can have the skills to do that beyond just working with us. When you first sign up, you send us photos and that’s where we get a general idea of your body composition. You send us what your current diet is, what your goal is and what you are expecting from us and the whole program. We ask you what your current activity levels are, if you’re competing in anything. We ask you how old you are, how tall you are and what your relationship with food is like. If you have any dietary preferences, allergies. It’s kind of a pretty comprehensive onboarding questionnaire, along with what your ultimate goal is and what process goals along the way you are looking for. And then from that, we just give you an initial program. But that’s really not just the magic of what we do, that initial program is not where all your results are going to be. The results are in the consistency and checking in with your coach over time. Actually checking in with your coach the next time, letting them know how things are going, there is this huge ocean of resources for all the things to do with nutrition. Anything you are struggling with, they have seen it before and we have worked with almost 25,000 people and we have seen everything you can possibly imagine. I haven’t been surprised in a really long time. *laughing*
Adee: It’s more just giving your coach the opportunity to get to know you. What’s your lifestyle like? What do you do for a living? How much time does that take you? How much extra time do you have to focus on your nutrition? And if you don’t have any, we have strategies to make it so this doesn’t take that much time and you can still achieve what you are looking to achieve.
Drew: Gotcha. I love that. A question about some of the athletes you work with, like Olympic CrossFit athletes. I am just curious to know, what nutritional protocol have you seen work the best for those types of high level athletes?
Adee: I think what’s interesting about having the opportunity to work with so many different elite level athletes, right now we have 20 different individual CrossFit games athletes that are on the program. The craziest thing about it is that the program, it’s different for each and every one of them. There is no like …. each of them have different lifestyles. You’ll have Brooke Wells, who is a senior in college, and there are different challenges that come with that lifestyle. Then you have Brooke N. who wants to be a movie star and she is literally in a different city every weekend. All the way to Cole Sager, who is at home in this very solid routine and is in control of his nutrition pretty much every single day. They all have different preferences. Their bodies operate differently. They are different body compositions. Primarily they are going to be eating more carbs than what the average human is going to be eating. They are really different, all of them and some of them eat less than you would think they do. *laughing*
Drew: Interesting. *laughing* I am just curious to know if there is one that seems to work for those types of high level athletes. But like you said, it’s very bio individual. It depends on the person’s lifestyle and some people’s bodies respond differently. I am just curious to know if any of them do keto or have been successful on keto, at that high level of an athlete.
Adee: None of the ones that work for me, no.
Drew: Gotcha. No, I figured that was the case. *laughing*
Adee: Yeah, but my definition of keto would be less than 5% of your calories coming from carbohydrates and 70% of your calories coming from fat. None of them are doing that.
Drew: Yeah. I was just curious. I figured that was the case. You never know sometimes. I am curious to know about you personally, Adee. How do you eat now? How has that evolved over the years? Have you tweaked it or do you eat the same way now that you did 3 or 5 years ago?
Adee: Yes. Kind of what I was talking about earlier, it’s been a journey. It’s been a rollercoaster. When I started “Working Against Gravity”, I was a full time athlete. I had decided to take a year off. I just finished graduate school. I wasn’t going to get a real job for a year. I wanted to just train. So, my eating at that time was 100% dialed in. I had to be in the 63 kilo weight class. I need to weigh and measure everything I ate. I don’t very easily at 5′ 6 1/2 weight that much when I am training full time. So, managing and making sure I didn’t get too far from 63, so I could still make weight for meets, was almost like a full time job. I won a bronze medal in 2016 at Nationals and decided I needed a break. It had been four years straight of training almost 9 times a week. I wanted a break. I also wanted to take “Working Against Gravity” …. we at that point had six employees and I wanted to devote myself to making this a real place that people could have a long term career. So, I took the past two years, really not being as disciplined with my nutrition and not being as disciplined with my training and that’s where things evolve. I didn’t weigh and measure everything I ate. I would go in and out. I traveled a lot. I really enjoyed my time in places that I traveled. I used food to connect with people, instead of just ….. it’s different when you’re eating and you are enjoying that experience with people that you love and eating sitting on the couch just watching a movie, just for the sake of binging. I really try to be conscious of the food choices that I am making all the time. I do encourage people who have been dieting for a really long time to take a break sometimes. Stay confident in the skills you have developed while being really, really disciplined. I know what’s in food. I know what things don’t ever fit in my nutrition program. It’s never going to fit for me to eat an entire pint of Ben and Jerry’s. It’s just not something that is going to work for me. *laughing*
Adee: I do have that level of education. Right now, I am actually about four months …. I have been tracking my food, just as disciplined as I used to, for four months. It actually came back, the scale came back way quicker than I had expected it to. I thought it would be more difficult to get into the swing of things. It was amazing. I do everything that my clients do right now.
Drew: Awesome. How do you feel like …. you were saying earlier in the Podcast that when your nutrition is dialed in, everything else kind of follows suit. Like, spiritually, emotionally, mentally, how do you see food tying into your performance level or your optimization for being an entrepreneur or being a wife? How do you see that tying into helping you to become a better human?
Adee: It is so dramatic, it’s hard for people to really understand. I think that unless you have done it and you really feel those results, for me it makes me feel like I am a professional. Like I take my life that seriously. We kind of look at these elite athletes like they are different than us, or they have different genetics. We put them in this category that we could never be in, because it kind of gives us an out. I don’t have to be amazing, because they are different than me. I couldn’t possibly be the way that they are. But getting to see the work that they do up close, I realized I can also do that in my life. When I am being disciplined in my nutrition, just the way that they are, it makes me feel like I’m being productive. I have high integrity with myself. And just that fact of being consistent, even though I will be honest, I’ve been doing this for four months. I’ve weighed and measured every single thing I eat and I have literally lost like four pounds, like barely anything. I find myself being that frustrated client who took some time off and now is not getting results as fast as they want to. But, taking pleasure in just being consistent has helped me wake up easier in the morning. I fall asleep better at night. The quality of my sleep has improved. It has also improved my relationship with my husband, now I’m more confident in myself. You walk with a different kind of swagger. It gets him to want to be more disciplined too. *laughing*
Drew: *laughing* That’s awesome. We’ll get into that in a second, the relationship thing. I think it’s really important what you said, because I see so many people, a lot of my followers, the same thing.
They will be doing a program and they will compare their results to other peoples results and they will think, ‘Man, I am putting in so much effort. I am frustrated. I want to quit because I see other people not working out as hard as I do, or not as disciplined and they are losing twice the amount of weight. I am putting in all this effort, where is the results?’ I think this is the problem in the fitness industry, is we place so much value on results instead of just focusing on the process, like you said. Instead of just being confident in the fact that you are being consistent and you are following these healthy habits. You know it’s affecting you in other ways, other than just weight loss or how you look. That’s what’s hard to get people to change, the perception of what health and fitness is, it’s not being skinny or having a six pack or losing weight. That can become a by-product over time, but it’s hard when people just want the quick results because they see other people getting those quick results and feel like they should get those results too. How do you find keeping people motivated in those situations when they are following the meal plan, they are doing the workout’s, they are just not seeing the results. What are some things you tell or you talk to your clients about to keep motivating them?
Adee: I kind of tell people that motivation is not like this organic thing that is just there all the time. Sometimes you just have to do it anyways. Just because you made a commitment, you have to follow through on the commitment. If you waited for motivation to be there all the time, you just would never do anything. Sometimes it is just not there, it’s just like you made a commitment to that, so that should be the reason why you do something. I really encourage people when they are trying to make a real change that is notoriously difficult, like we want to be the most disciplined person in the room, but every single other human being on the planet talks about how they struggle with their nutrition or it’s difficult for them to follow a diet. That’s why it’s such a huge industry. Just know that based on statistics, it’s probably going to be difficult for you too. That means anchoring yourself in aspects of the process that are entirely in your control. The number on the scale is completely outside of your control. There are certain things that you can do to manipulate the scale to make weight for a meet, which for that particular moment you might be able to be in control of the scale. But every single other moment, you are just really not in control of what the scale says. You are not in control of your performance in the gym. If you compare your score to somebody else’s score, you have no control over what they do. You have no control over how much weight you are going to lift that day. What you are in control of is your effort, your attitude. You are in control of your sleep. You are in control of what you put into your body and finding pride and excitement in those moments is the best way to stay motivated. It’s the best way to manufacture motivation. You can convince yourself of anything. I have honestly convinced myself to love certain vegetables because I know they are good for me and eventually, I actually just love them. How many of us convince ourselves to love beer or wine? You didn’t love that when you were a kid. *laughing*
Drew: *laughing* That is actually a really good analogy.
Adee: You convinced yourself! You thought it was disgusting. Everyone thought coffee was disgusting, then you convinced yourself you liked it because you wanted to like it. Like convince yourself that you love fitness. Convince yourself that you love your body. If you operate from a place of loving yourself instead of from a place of fixing yourself, you are automatically going to be more successful.
Drew: That is awesome. That is probably like the best tweetable comment ever on the Podcast. Thank you for sharing. Just curious to know if you and Michael eat the same food or eat the same way? Or do you have to prepare different types of meals for each other?
Adee: Yeah. Anyone who is married knows you are kind of like a unit. If one person is doing something, it’s hard for the other person not to. We kind of work together a lot. Right now we are both tracking our food, but we do make …. like he likes to prep food and I don’t love to prep food, so sometimes he has more available than me. He sometimes will tell me what he has left and I will make him a meal. We do eat a lot of meals separately. We try to eat dinner together and breakfast together. We eat similar kinds of food. We use Trifecta, it’s helps us a lot. We really love Trifecta.
Drew: What is that? I don’t know what that is.
Adee: Trifecta is like a meal prep service. They have this really cool feature, it’s like an ala carte feature where you can order just turkey patties or just burger patties or just chicken. It makes it really easy to mix and match and make your own meals. So, we do that. We eat kind of the same. He obviously eats more than me, he’s bigger than me and he’s fitter than me. *laughing*
Drew: *laughing* Is there any movements that you can kick his ass in?
Adee: No, I wish. There is literally nothing. Maybe if you factored in that I am a female and my body weight, a full snatch, maybe. But honestly, he is so fit, it’s unfair. Like it’s not fair. It’s so frustrating! *laughing*
Drew: *laughing* That’s so funny. I think that’s cool. I think it’s cool to have a little bit of competitiveness between spouses. I think it’s fun because then you guys get to share in doing stuff together that you guys both like. Who knows, maybe he will have an off day where you will be able to beat him at ….
Adee: No, don’t even get my hopes up. We can’t have competitiveness, because he is that much fitter than me. It’s not like …. like one time he did a hundred burpees over the bar for time. I was like, ‘Ok, give me a thirty burpee handicap. I’m going to do thirty and then your going to start.’ Then he started and he still finished before me. That is so unfair.
Drew: *laughing* That is so funny. That is awesome. Well, I get it and I appreciate you talking about that. I think it’s cool that you guys can do those things together. And who knows, we will see. I won’t get your hopes up though. Are you guys by any chance going to be at PaleoFX?
Adee: We are in town, but we are not going to be at the event.
Adee: But we are in town, so if you’re in town, come hang out.
Drew: Yes, that’s the reason I threw that out there. But, before we go, Adee, where can people get in touch with you? Where can people contact you about “Working Against Gravity”?
Adee: People can get in contact with me at www.workingagainstgravity.com. You can also follow us on Instagram, Working Against Gravity and I have a personal Instagram account. I post like maybe once every month, but it’s usually like some type of words of wisdom or something I’ve learned in my life in that particular moment. Usually longer captions are my style. And that is @AdeeCazyoux. If you have show notes to this Podcast, it will be spelled over there.
Drew: Yes, because if you try to spell it just based off how it’s pronounced, I doubt you will be able to spell it. *laughing*
Adee: Exactly! *laughing*
Drew: Awesome. Adee, I appreciate you coming on. Last question for you, what’s your all time favorite dessert that you can’t resist?
Adee: Oh my gosh. I can resist any dessert.
Drew: Wow! *laughing*
Adee: I am really good at resisting desserts, but my all time favorite dessert is ice cream. My favorite flavor is Ben and Jerry’s Milk and Cookies.
Drew: Milk and Cookies. Is there any like healthier ice cream substitute that you have found that is almost to that level, where you are like, ‘Ok, I can eat Halo Top?”
Adee: I mean, if you eat Halo Top and you just don’t eat Ben and Jerry’s for a while again, then it starts to be kind of similar. I mean it’s a great substitute, but the second you have Milk and Cookies, it’s just not comparable. Halo Top is a great substitute, especially the new flavors. I like how Ben and Jerry’s has chewier ice cream, like it’s so topping heavy. Halo Top, the new flavors are good, but the second you have regular ice cream again, you remember. You’re like, ‘Oh yeah, this is different.’
Drew: Maybe it’s just one of those things where you have got to convince yourself it’s just as good. *laughing*
Adee: Oh yeah, I do that all the time! You just don’t have regular ice cream and then Halo Top is amazing.
Drew: Ok, Adee. Thank you so much for coming on. I really appreciate what you do, helping out so many people all over the place. I really appreciate you being on the Podcast. We will be in touch.
Adee: Yeah, thank you so much for having me.
Drew: Ok, talk to you soon.
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